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BartDavid January 29, 2012 at 5:47 pm
As a straight spouse, recently divorced, thank you for considering our perspective and lifting up the work of the Straight Spouse Network.
cmsvmom January 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Thanks for this. Cant tell you how horrible it was to be invisible to all, especially since my ex remained closeted and in denial, even to himself. Gay community was no help for affirmation, I got the sense that they were hiding something. Straight advocates for gays were all about how hard it is for gays. No one affirmed or noticed me. I nearly lost custody of my children to an abusive gay man in denial because he had to control the story – and no one in my liberal church cared because I am not gay.
CF1997 January 30, 2012 at 8:30 am
This is a wonderful analogy from you…. "The parent who devoted years, sometimes decades, to making a family, only to have it run through their fingers like sand."
I always compared this experience of having a gay spouse to standing on the transparent, stable, safe platform at the Grand Canyon, and suddenly having it shatter beneath me. What was once secure suddenly turned to shattered glass.. my life in sharp slivers and jagged fragments around me… as I fell and fell. When my husband came out to me, we'd been together 16 years, I was no longer in a corporate career to be home with our four children (ages 3-11), and I'd been homeschooling for two years. I'm now trying to take all those glass pieces, figure out what stays, what goes, and what is completely different in my life and me personally. I've truly been changed to the core and as many do, battle the unique insecurities and emotional trappings that come with finding out your perfect relationship was in part, an illusion. I'm working hard to have a solid relationship with him as a co-parent… he is an awesome dad… while 19 months later, still trying not to be in love with the man who I thought was my soulmate, best friend, and my everything. Thank you so much for sharing part of our story. The support I've received from other straight spouses… especially in person… has been more healing than all the therapy in the world (which I'm also doing).
jph_ssn January 31, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Jean – Overall I thought your article was great. I am a "straight spouse", part of the SSN, and had a relatively minor experience, in that my spouse had not cheated or "explored her sexuality" before confiding in me. I belong to an open and affirming church and firmly support gay marriage and equal rights.
One phrase stood out though as it highlights the problem so many of my peers experience: "These straight spouses are every bit the victim as the spouse who was forced to lie about his/her sexual identity for so long, yet sympathy has been no group’s default position. " If the gay spouse knew about their real orientation going into the marriage, as so very many actually do, people need to realize that those specific individuals made a conscious effort to victimize/defraud their straight spouse of their life, using them as a disguise and frequently exposing them to health risks, without regards to them as people. This is in no way the same as a marriage falling apart due to drift or a later infidelity; in this scenario the straight spouse's life has been invalidated because life choices were made for them 10, 20 or 30 years ago, just so someone could have their cake and eat it too.
amindmakeover February 12, 2012 at 8:08 pm
I am a straight spouse – I found out my husband was gay after 27 years of marriage. … and yes you can start a new life with compassion… even re-marry and have a family network… I wrote You Celebrate You to assist in the transition, to heal and empower available at BARNES & NOBLE | You Celebrate You by Carolyn M. Brown, iUniverse, Incorporated | NOOK Book (eBook), Paperback, Hardcover
SFConnects March 8, 2012 at 1:47 am
The founder of South Florida Connects, a community outreach and peer support organization for minority and immigrant straight spouses, has just returned from a healing weekend retreat for straight spouses, hosted by the Bonnie Kaye Straight Spouse Support Network, in Houston, Texas. After hearing from many straight spouses from varying social, religious, cultural, ethnic, socio-economic, and professional segments of society, It's interesting to note that you also believe that straight spouses are getting a bad rap.
I read a quote by Dr. Susan Weitzman of the Weitzman Center, where they treat victims of upscale domestic violence, and if I didn't know the context of the quote, I could easily have thought she was referring to straight spouses and all the difficulties that they experience.
Here is her quote,"The astounding lack of understanding and acknowledgment of this phenomenon among helping professionals results—too often—in women being inadvertently re-victimized by the very systems and professionals that ought to be in place to help the abused. Everyday across the nation, women are losing custody of their children, as they do not have the resources to fight frivolous lawsuits. More often, they are becoming impoverished and overwhelmingly depressed in their efforts to fight injustice and abuse by partners who exploit them further through the legal system. Isolation, a by-product of this lack of awareness by professionals, leads to more hopelessness, fear, and further depression."
This is the experience of many straight spouses. Until individuals and organizations with clout, local legislatures, and others in positions of considerable power, start advocating for straight spouses, like they do for victims of domestic violence and abuse, (some straight spouses are also victims of DV), straight spouses will continue to be marginalized and victimized by their gay spouses.
Straight spouses are only asking for mainstream society to acknowledge their plight, and help alleviate some of their unnecessary, and prolonged suffering, that is often perpetuated by their selfish gay spouses. Someone in the legal community needs to stand up for straight spouses who are been bled dry of what little resources they may have by spiteful, gay spouses who keep using the courts, filing motions after motions, in an effort to further victimize and abuse their already suffering straight spouses.
Until that happens, South Florida Connects through it's website Connecting The Down Low Clues, will continue to provide education, validation, empowerment and peer support to straight spouses. everywhere.
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Order a 300x250! { 6 comments } BartDavid January 29, 2012 at 5:47 pm As a straight spouse, recently divorced, thank you for considering our perspective and lifting up the work of the Straight Spouse Network. cmsvmom January 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm Thanks for this. Cant tell you how horrible it was to be invisible to all, especially since my ex remained closeted and in denial, even to himself. Gay community was no help for affirmation, I got the sense that they were hiding something. Straight advocates for gays were all about how hard it is for gays. No one affirmed or noticed me. I nearly lost custody of my children to an abusive gay man in denial because he had to control the story – and no one in my liberal church cared because I am not gay. CF1997 January 30, 2012 at 8:30 am This is a wonderful analogy from you…. "The parent who devoted years, sometimes decades, to making a family, only to have it run through their fingers like sand." I always compared this experience of having a gay spouse to standing on the transparent, stable, safe platform at the Grand Canyon, and suddenly having it shatter beneath me. What was once secure suddenly turned to shattered glass.. my life in sharp slivers and jagged fragments around me… as I fell and fell. When my husband came out to me, we'd been together 16 years, I was no longer in a corporate career to be home with our four children (ages 3-11), and I'd been homeschooling for two years. I'm now trying to take all those glass pieces, figure out what stays, what goes, and what is completely different in my life and me personally. I've truly been changed to the core and as many do, battle the unique insecurities and emotional trappings that come with finding out your perfect relationship was in part, an illusion. I'm working hard to have a solid relationship with him as a co-parent… he is an awesome dad… while 19 months later, still trying not to be in love with the man who I thought was my soulmate, best friend, and my everything. Thank you so much for sharing part of our story. The support I've received from other straight spouses… especially in person… has been more healing than all the therapy in the world (which I'm also doing). jph_ssn January 31, 2012 at 1:06 pm Jean – Overall I thought your article was great. I am a "straight spouse", part of the SSN, and had a relatively minor experience, in that my spouse had not cheated or "explored her sexuality" before confiding in me. I belong to an open and affirming church and firmly support gay marriage and equal rights. One phrase stood out though as it highlights the problem so many of my peers experience: "These straight spouses are every bit the victim as the spouse who was forced to lie about his/her sexual identity for so long, yet sympathy has been no group’s default position. " If the gay spouse knew about their real orientation going into the marriage, as so very many actually do, people need to realize that those specific individuals made a conscious effort to victimize/defraud their straight spouse of their life, using them as a disguise and frequently exposing them to health risks, without regards to them as people. This is in no way the same as a marriage falling apart due to drift or a later infidelity; in this scenario the straight spouse's life has been invalidated because life choices were made for them 10, 20 or 30 years ago, just so someone could have their cake and eat it too. amindmakeover February 12, 2012 at 8:08 pm I am a straight spouse – I found out my husband was gay after 27 years of marriage. … and yes you can start a new life with compassion… even re-marry and have a family network… I wrote You Celebrate You to assist in the transition, to heal and empower available at BARNES & NOBLE | You Celebrate You by Carolyn M. Brown, iUniverse, Incorporated | NOOK Book (eBook), Paperback, Hardcover SFConnects March 8, 2012 at 1:47 am The founder of South Florida Connects, a community outreach and peer support organization for minority and immigrant straight spouses, has just returned from a healing weekend retreat for straight spouses, hosted by the Bonnie Kaye Straight Spouse Support Network, in Houston, Texas. After hearing from many straight spouses from varying social, religious, cultural, ethnic, socio-economic, and professional segments of society, It's interesting to note that you also believe that straight spouses are getting a bad rap. I read a quote by Dr. Susan Weitzman of the Weitzman Center, where they treat victims of upscale domestic violence, and if I didn't know the context of the quote, I could easily have thought she was referring to straight spouses and all the difficulties that they experience. Here is her quote,"The astounding lack of understanding and acknowledgment of this phenomenon among helping professionals results—too often—in women being inadvertently re-victimized by the very systems and professionals that ought to be in place to help the abused. Everyday across the nation, women are losing custody of their children, as they do not have the resources to fight frivolous lawsuits. More often, they are becoming impoverished and overwhelmingly depressed in their efforts to fight injustice and abuse by partners who exploit them further through the legal system. Isolation, a by-product of this lack of awareness by professionals, leads to more hopelessness, fear, and further depression." This is the experience of many straight spouses. Until individuals and organizations with clout, local legislatures, and others in positions of considerable power, start advocating for straight spouses, like they do for victims of domestic violence and abuse, (some straight spouses are also victims of DV), straight spouses will continue to be marginalized and victimized by their gay spouses. Straight spouses are only asking for mainstream society to acknowledge their plight, and help alleviate some of their unnecessary, and prolonged suffering, that is often perpetuated by their selfish gay spouses. Someone in the legal community needs to stand up for straight spouses who are been bled dry of what little resources they may have by spiteful, gay spouses who keep using the courts, filing motions after motions, in an effort to further victimize and abuse their already suffering straight spouses. Until that happens, South Florida Connects through it's website Connecting The Down Low Clues, will continue to provide education, validation, empowerment and peer support to straight spouses. everywhere. ]خيانة[/url]
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BartDavid 29 يناير 2012 في الساعة 5:47
كما الزوج على التوالي، وطلقت مؤخرا، أشكركم على النظر في وجهة نظرنا، ورفع في العمل في شبكة الزوج على التوالى.
cmsvmom 29 يناير 2012 في الساعة 8:43
شكرا لهذا. غير قادر على ان اقول لكم عن مدى فظاعة لها أن تكون غير مرئية للجميع، وخصوصا بلدي السابقين بقيت المجتمعين في والحرمان، وحتى لنفسه. حصلت على المجتمع مثلي الجنس لم تكن مساعدة لتأكيد، بمعنى أنها كانت تخفي شيئا. دعاة على التوالي لمثليون جنسيا كل شيء عن مدى صعوبة للمثليون جنسيا. وأكد أحد أو لاحظت لي. لقد فقدت ما يقرب من حضانة أطفالي إلى رجل مثلي الجنس 1 المسيئة في رفض لانه كان للسيطرة على القصة - وليس لأحد في كنيستي ليبرالية تهتم لأنني لست مثلي الجنس.
CF1997 30 يناير 2012 في الساعة 8:30 صباحا
وهذا هو القياس من رائع لك .... "الوالد الذي كرس سنوات، منذ عقود في بعض الأحيان، إلى جعل الأسرة، فقط لأنها قد تعمل من خلال أصابعهم مثل الرمال".
أنا دائما مقارنة هذه التجربة وجود الزوج إلى مثلي الجنس واقفا على الشفافية، ومنصة، مستقر آمن في جراند كانيون، وبعد ذلك فجأة تتحطم تحت لي. ما تم تأمين مرة واحدة تحولت فجأة إلى تحطم زجاج .. حياتي في شظايا حادة وشظايا خشنة من حولي ... كما أنني وقعت وسقطت. وكنت عندما خرج زوجي لي، كنا نعمل معا 16 سنة، لم يعد في مهنة الشركات أن تكون في المنزل مع أربعة أطفال لدينا (من سن 3-11)، وكنت قد المنزلي لمدة عامين. أحاول الآن أن تتخذ جميع تلك القطع الزجاجية، ومعرفة ما يبقى، ما يجري، وما هو مختلف تماما في حياتي، وأنا شخصيا. حقا لقد تغيرت حتى النخاع، وكما يفعل الكثير من، محاربة انعدام الأمن زخارف فريدة من نوعها والعاطفية التي تأتي مع معرفة علاقتك مثالية وكان في جزء منه، وهما. أنا أعمل بجد لعلاقة متينة معه كوالد المشترك ... انه هو أب رائع ... في حين أن 19 شهرا في وقت لاحق، لا تزال تحاول أن لا تكون في حالة حب مع الرجل الذي اعتقدت نصفه لي، وأفضل صديق، و لي كل شيء. شكرا جزيلا لتقاسم جزء من قصتنا. وكان الدعم التي حصلت عليها من الزوجين على التوالي أخرى ... لا سيما في شخص ... أكثر الشفاء من العلاج لجميع في العالم (الذي أقوم به أيضا).
jph_ssn 31 يناير 2012 في الساعة 1:06
جان - يعتقد عموما أنا مقالك كان كبيرا. أنا "الزوج مستقيم"، وهي جزء من شبكة الأمان الاجتماعي، وكان لها تجربة صغيرة نسبيا، في أن زوجي لم يلجأ إلى الغش أو "استكشاف حياتها الجنسية" قبل confiding في لي. أنا أنتمي إلى الكنيسة مفتوحة وتؤكد وتدعم بحزم زواج مثلي الجنس والمساواة في الحقوق.
وقفت عبارة واحدة خارج كما لو أنه يلقي الضوء على مشكلة الكثير من تجربة زملائي: "إن هذه الأزواج مباشرة هي كل شيء الضحية على الزوج الذي اضطر الى الكذب حول هوية له / لها الجنسي لفترة طويلة، ولكن التعاطف لم يكن المجموعة الافتراضي موقف. "إذا كان الزوج مثلي الجنس يعرف عن ميولهم الحقيقية الخوض في هذا الزواج، وذلك كثير جدا القيام به في الواقع، والناس بحاجة إلى أن ندرك أن هؤلاء الأفراد محددة بذلت جهدا واعيا لضحية / احتيال الزوج على التوالي من حياتهم، واستخدامها كقناع وكشف لهم في كثير من الأحيان إلى مخاطر صحية، ودون ما يتعلق بهم من الناس. هذا ليس في أي حال نفس الزواج ينهار بسبب الانحراف أو الخيانة الزوجية في وقت لاحق، في هذا السيناريو حياة الزوج مباشرة ولقد تم إبطال لأنه تم اتخاذ خيارات الحياة بالنسبة لهم 10 أو 20 أو 30 عاما، فقط حتى شخص ما يمكن أن يكون لها هذه الكعكة وأكلها أيضا.
amindmakeover 12 فبراير 2012 في الساعة 8:08
أنا الزوج مباشرة - اكتشفت زوجي كان مثلي الجنس بعد 27 سنوات من الزواج. نعم ... ويمكنك أن تبدأ حياة جديدة مع الرحمة ... حتى تزوجت مرة أخرى ولها شبكة عائلة ... كتبت تحتفلون أنت للمساعدة في عملية الانتقال، للشفاء، وتمكين المتاحة في بارنز أند نوبل | تحتفلون أنت من قبل م. كارولين براون، iUniverse، إنكوربوريتد | زاوية كتاب (كتاب إلكتروني)، غلاف عادي، غلاف فني
SFConnects 8 مارس 2012 في 1:47 صباحا
مؤسس يربط جنوب فلوريدا، والتواصل مع المجتمع والزملاء تنظيم الدعم للأقلية والأزواج مباشرة من المهاجرين، وقد عاد لتوه من الشفاء تمضية عطلة نهاية الاسبوع للأزواج على التوالي، والذي استضافته كاي بوني على التوالى على الزوج شبكة دعم، في هيوستن، تكساس. بعد الاستماع مباشرة من الزوجين كثير من متفاوتة، والدينية والاجتماعية، وقطاعات الثقافية والإثنية والاجتماعية والاقتصادية، والمهنية في المجتمع، من المثير للاهتمام أن نلاحظ أن كنت تعتقد أيضا أن الزوجين مباشرة يحصلون على موسيقى الراب سيئة.
قرأت رد الدكتور سوزان فايتسمان من مركز فايتسمان، حيث أنها علاج ضحايا العنف المنزلي الراقي، وإذا لم أكن أعرف سياق الاقتباس، وأنا يمكن بسهولة كان يظن انها اشارة الى الزوجين على التوالي، وعلى جميع الصعوبات التي يواجهونها.
وهنا أقتبس لها، "إن نقص مذهل للتفاهم واعتراف من هذه الظاهرة بين مساعدة المهنيين على النتائج في كثير من الأحيان، عن غير قصد في أن تعيد المرأة ضحية للنظم جدا والمهنيين الذي يجب أن يكون في مكان لمساعدة ضحايا سوء المعاملة. كل يوم في جميع أنحاء الأمة، والمرأة تفقد حضانة أطفالها، لأنها لا تملك الموارد اللازمة لمحاربة دعاوى تافهة. في أكثر الأحيان، وأنها أصبحت تعاني من الفقر والاكتئاب بشكل كبير في جهودها لمحاربة الظلم والاعتداء من قبل الشركاء الذين يستغلون تلك الجهود من خلال قانوني نظام عزل، وهو منتج ثانوي من هذا النقص في الوعي لدى المهنيين، ويؤدي الى مزيد من اليأس والخوف والاكتئاب في المستقبل ".
هذه هي تجربة الزوجين مباشرة كثيرة. حتى الأفراد والمنظمات التي لديها نفوذ والهيئات التشريعية المحلية، وآخرين في مناصب السلطة كبير، وبدء الدعوة للأزواج على التوالي، كما يفعلون لضحايا العنف المنزلي والاعتداء، (بعض الأزواج على التوالي هم أيضا ضحايا DV)، وأزواج مستقيم ستستمر مهمشة وضحية لأزواجهم مثلي الجنس.
الزوجين على التوالي يطالبون فقط عن التيار الرئيسي للمجتمع أن نعترف محنتهم، والمساعدة في تخفيف بعض من معاناتهم لا لزوم لها، وطويلة الأمد، وهذا هو استمرار كثير من الأحيان من قبل زوجاتهم مثلي الجنس الأنانية. شخص ما في المجتمع القانوني بحاجة الى الدفاع عن الزوجين على التوالي الذين تم يستنزف موارد القليل من ما قد يكون لديهم من قبل الزوجين، حاقد مثلي الجنس الذين يحافظون على استخدام المحاكم، وتقديم الاقتراحات الاقتراحات بعد، في محاولة لمزيد من إيذاء والإساءة بالفعل في معاناة الزوجين على التوالي.
حتى يحدث ذلك، وجنوب فلوريدا يوصل من خلال الإنترنت، وربط خيوط مستوى منخفض، وسوف تستمر في توفير التعليم، والمصادقة، وتمكين المرأة ودعم الأقران للأزواج على التوالي. في كل مكان.